Kelly child pornography trial dubbed Lisa Van Allen, the singer's former lover, their star witness. According to the testimony of Van Allen, who turned 28 last week, in the late nineties she claims that she participated in sexual threesomes with Kelly and an underage girl at the center of the trial.
Last week Kelly was acquitted of all 14 child pornography charges. Van Allen, who received immunity for her testimony, talked to Essence. What are your feelings about the verdict? The evidence against him was there, but the case seemed to be going in the defense's favor. I never thought he would actually go to jail, just based on what I've seen happen with celebrities when they get in trouble.
I thought he'd get a slap on the wrist, like, "Don't do it again. How did you meet R. I met him in Alpharetta, Georgia, at the "Home Alone" video shoot, probably in ' I was 17, and he was I was fresh out of high school. My friend's girlfriend was going to the video shoot, and he didn't want her to go by herself. I just tagged along with her and ended up being an extra in it. So how did you go from being an extra to meeting him personally?
He sent his cousin over to me. This guy told me his cousin wanted to talk to me. I asked him who his cousin was, and he said, "R. In between the scenes, he came back to the trailer and talked to me. I was very flattered.
Out of all the girls at the video shoot, he picked me out of everybody to talk to. We ended up having intercourse. You had sex with him in the trailer that same day? He started with a kiss, and from there we leaned back, and I just didn't stop him. I was kind of worried that he wouldn't want to see me again after that, but I wasn't worried about the actual act at that time because I was just honored that he picked me.
Being a young girl, I was like, "Wow. Now that I'm older, things are different. I would never go that route today. As a child, you don't make all the right decisions. That's why young girls shouldn't be involved with grown men. So do you feel like he seduced you?
No, I don't feel like he seduced me. He was just being really nice, and I was basically going along with whatever he wanted to do. We didn't talk about much. He was just asking me my name and how old I was. When I said my age, he asked me if my mom would let me come to Chicago and visit. I told him, "Yeah. How did your relationship with R. Kelly evolve from there? I actually didn't call him for about a month, because I didn't know what to say to him. When I did finally call him, he got straight to the point and said, "When can you come up here?
He would tell me, "Don't leave yet; I want to talk to you. So I ended up quitting my job and moved to Chicago. Where did you live? I stayed at the studio the majority of the time, but I also had a hotel room. He was always at the studio. He had closets full of clothes there, a bed, a refrigerator, a big-screen TV, a shower, the whole works. You would think it was a mini apartment. Did you feel emotionally connected with him, or was it mostly a sexual relationship? I thought we were really good friends and were really close.
Once I moved up there, we did everything together. He'd be in the studio recording; I'd be there. He'd go to video shoots; I'd be there. He even went to get a colon cleanse, and I went with him.
It wasn't only sexual, but sex was a major part. Was he very controlling when it came to sex? He would always tell you what to do. You'd come into a situation where he'd want to have sex, and he'd coach you through the whole thing.
He'd tell you which way to lie, which way to turn, what noises to make, how loud to moan, how to roll your body around. It was weird, but being that I was so young I still didn't know what was the right way to do things sexually. I was still learning. He was a man, so I just followed his lead. I figured he knew more about this stuff, and that this is how it's supposed to go.
One of the more appalling aspects of the tape at the center of the trial is that the man peed on the girl in the video. Is that something R. Kelly did with you? No, he never asked me to do that. We had never had a conversation about it, and he never tried to do that with me.
Given the age difference, I'm curious about what you felt you had in common with him. See, that's the thing-he doesn't act his age. His conversations are pretty much on a or year-old's grade level. He would crack jokes a lot. We would go to McDonald's all the time. He liked to go to Hoops, a basketball gym, every night. He would go to the mall a lot.
So he was basically doing what kids that age were doing. Did you consider him to be your boyfriend? In my head I did, until I found out later that he was married. How did you find out he was married? One night when he was in the studio recording, one of his runners came in and said, "Your wife's on the line. Kelly; Van Allen also calls him Robert] got upset and walked him out in the hallway and cussed him out.
We never saw that runner again. From then on, his runners never said "your wife. I was upset, but I tried not to show it. I thought I was the closest woman to him, and I thought we had a little relationship going. It crushed my dreams of what was going on. Did the two of you discuss his wife after that?
He would bring her up, but I never asked him "Why are you with her? He would try to make me feel good about the situation. So finding out he was married didn't end the relationship? I was already living up there, probably for about six months at that time.
We were supposedly in love; he would tell me he loved me. So no, it didn't end. Have you ever met his wife? I haven't met her like "How are you doing? She's been in the studio at the same time as me, and we've crossed paths.
But I was never introduced to her. I don't think she knew who I was to him, but she definitely knew that I was around a lot. I don't know much about how their relationship works.